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Re: What was the “clean flesh” hoax among Christadelphians?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Sat, 27 May 2023 06:06:38 -0000

hamartia is physical

The Greek noun hamartia and its cognates have been in use since Homer, and
tracing the evolution of the use of the term up through Aristotle shows three
main categories of meaning, none of which specifies an exclusively religious
one that corresponds to modern popular and scholarly usage. First is the original, literal sense, commonly translated into English as “miss,” meaning physically to miss something, to fall short, or go astray of a goal or target. Homer used the word frequently in battle scenes, to conjure images of hitting or missing intended targets (Bremer 1969: 30-31).

Sin is a principle or a nature, as well as an act (Matthew 15:19)

Re: Was anyone in the Bible saved but later lost their salvation?

Greg — Fri, 05 May 2023 01:52:55 -0000

8 years later...and their answer is still incorrect.

Re: What was the “clean flesh” hoax among Christadelphians?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Tue, 02 May 2023 21:55:04 -0000

There are some similarities between the Christadelphian belief in clean flesh and Pelagianism. Both reject the idea of original sin and the transmission of guilt from Adam to his descendants. Both also emphasize the moral responsibility of individuals and the importance of free will in making choices.

However, there are also significant differences between the two beliefs. Pelagianism denies the doctrine of original sin and affirms the ability of humans to achieve salvation through their own efforts, without the need for divine grace. Clean flesh, on the other hand, emphasizes the role of Jesus Christ as the sinless sacrifice who enables believers to be forgiven and to attain eternal life. Additionally, while Pelagianism was declared a heresy by the early church, clean flesh is a specific belief held by the Christadelphian denomination.

Re: What was the “clean flesh” hoax among Christadelphians?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Tue, 02 May 2023 21:54:17 -0000

There are some similarities between the concept of clean flesh in Christadelphian theology and Pelagianism, such as:

Denial of original sin: Both Pelagians and those who hold to the concept of clean flesh reject the idea of original sin. They believe that humans are born without any inherent guilt or corruption.

Emphasis on personal responsibility: Both Pelagians and those who hold to the concept of clean flesh place a strong emphasis on personal responsibility. They believe that humans are fully capable of obeying God's commands and living a sinless life if they choose to do so.

Human nature is not inherently corrupt: Both Pelagians and those who hold to the concept of clean flesh reject the idea that human nature is inherently corrupt. They believe that humans are born with a neutral or even positive nature, and that sin is a result of personal choice rather than an innate condition.

However, it should be noted that Christadelphians and Pelagians also have significant differences in their theology and beliefs. For example, Christadelphians believe in the need for a savior and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, while Pelagians deny the necessity of Christ's sacrifice for salvation.

Re: What was the “clean flesh” hoax among Christadelphians?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Tue, 02 May 2023 21:53:29 -0000

There are some similarities between the doctrine of clean flesh and Pelagianism:

Rejection of Original Sin: Both clean flesh and Pelagianism reject the doctrine of original sin. Pelagianism denies that human nature is corrupted by Adam's sin, while clean flesh teaches that Christ was born with a clean, untainted human nature and did not inherit a sinful nature from Adam.

Emphasis on Human Free Will: Both clean flesh and Pelagianism emphasize the role of human free will in salvation. Pelagianism holds that humans can achieve salvation through their own efforts and good works, while clean flesh teaches that Jesus was able to resist sin and achieve salvation because of his perfect obedience and the exercise of his free will.

Belief in Moral Perfection: Both clean flesh and Pelagianism hold to the belief that humans can achieve moral perfection through their own efforts. Pelagianism teaches that humans can attain perfection in this life, while clean flesh teaches that Jesus achieved moral perfection through his sinless life and perfect obedience.

It's worth noting, however, that while there are similarities between clean flesh and Pelagianism, there are also significant differences. For example, clean flesh still recognizes the need for a savior, while Pelagianism denies the need for a savior and asserts that humans can achieve salvation through their own efforts. Additionally, clean flesh emphasizes the role of Christ's sacrifice in achieving salvation, while Pelagianism does not.

Re: Explain Hebrews 1:2 “by whom also he made the worlds.”

Joshua — Tue, 18 Apr 2023 17:51:41 -0000

Yeshua was before Mary make no mistake

Re: How do we get all nationalities, like Native Americans, from Adam and Eve?

Kennedy — Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:18:19 -0000

I have some Jewish ancestors; I was raised Catholic and am now Christian. In reading Romans, a question has come to mind: "Who am I?" Am I considered a Jewish Christian?
My ancient ancestry goes back to the lands around Turkey, traveling on to Austria/Poland areas.

Re: What does the Escape-Goat, Azazel, mean in Leviticus 16:8?

biniam mario — Fri, 14 Apr 2023 12:20:03 -0000

If 1st Enoch is taken to account, the escape goat 'Azazel' will open a remarkable portal of seeing the whole mystery buried in Leviticus 16 8-10.
According to 1st Enoch, Azazel is one of the fallen angels responsible to all the wickedness of the earth resulting destruction by the great flood.

"And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azâzêl hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dûdâêl, and cast him therein.
And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light.
And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire."
And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons.
And the whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azâzêl: to him ascribe all sin.'
Enoch 10

So my beloved,
What is being hidden from us was never a mystery at all. In the holy name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit I beg you all to give 1st Enoch a time to study as there is much more to benefit from it, especially to this generation.

Re: Did Paul stand before Caesar?

Leoboy — Wed, 22 Feb 2023 22:18:25 -0000

Good to know! Thank you for the info!

Re: Why did David pick up five stones when he faced Goliath (1Sam. 17:40)?

Mary Autery — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 13:42:59 -0000

I think when he says who is this who is this is rhetorical, as when we say who does he think he is?

Re: Did Gehazi still have leprosy in 2 Kings 8:4?

Paul Fishman — Tue, 10 Jan 2023 14:34:56 -0000

It may have been the same Gehazi or another in 2 Kings 8:4. However his descendants were cursed to have leprosy. It is a possible theory that his descendants fled to the land of Put which today is Libya. There a city today called Benghazi or Bengehazi was named after him and his descendants as a curse of his greed and unfaithfulness. This curse has continued in Libya with the death of Mu'ammar Ghaddafi and those 4 American citizens killed by the Islamists on Sept 11 2012 in Benghazi. This reflects that one man's sin is a curse to many thousands of generations later even to a nation in similitude to the sin of Adam and Eve to ALL humanity.

Re: What is “sin in the flesh”?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 05:59:58 -0000

Is this in harmony with the Christadelphian Birmingham amended statement of faith

Re: What is “sin in the flesh”?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 05:54:33 -0000

If sin was not Condemned in the body of flesh of the lord Jesus than that is docetism

Re: What is “sin in the flesh”?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 05:53:14 -0000

If you look in the Greek the word sin is both a noun and a verb in Romans 8:3 it says the sin in the flesh the word sin is used as a noun also the definite article is there in the Greek it says the sin in the flesh

Re: What is “sin in the flesh”?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 05:51:30 -0000

This is false doctrine you are teaching Pelagianism Belief that sin did not taint human nature.

Re: What was the “clean flesh” hoax among Christadelphians?

Unorthodox Ecclesia — Sat, 26 Nov 2022 05:49:45 -0000

Your right there is no such thing as clean flesh what christadelphians really believe is Pelagianism Belief that sin did not taint human nature. Also since you teach that Jesus did not inherit sin from is human mother that is docetism. So there is not such thing as clean flesh you are teaching a mixture of Pelagianism and docetism

Re: Who are the “us” in “let us go down” of Gen.11:7?

Ryan Scott Mozert- — Fri, 04 Nov 2022 19:06:11 -0000

Jesus wrestled with Jacob Jesus also appeared in the garden with Adam also Shadrach Meshach and Abednego it was clearly the Son of God in the fire also the priest Melchizedek appearing to Abraham on and on and on and on and on it's clear that Christ brought God the Father and the Holy Spirit down to confound languages and to create man Jesus is The Great I Am the beginning and the end the First and the Last the Alpha and the Omega the ELD of days he is forever.
And John chapter 1 in the very first verses alone he spells it out for you

Re: Who are the “us” in “let us go down” of Gen.11:7?

Ryan Scott Mozert- — Fri, 04 Nov 2022 19:04:29 -0000

This is extremely clear that Jesus is the Lord God is also the Lord Jesus said let us go down it was either Jesus or God I believe Jesus had God and the Holy Spirit go down to help him do these things

Re: Who are the “us” in “let us go down” of Gen.11:7?

Ryan Scott Mozert- — Fri, 04 Nov 2022 19:03:44 -0000

Is clearly hogwash everyone knows Jesus was around way way way way before any of this happened

Re: Is the king of Israel called “god” in Psalm 45:7 – “Your throne, O God,”?

steeveeweevee — Wed, 19 Oct 2022 10:08:47 -0000

While your intention is good, this commentary on Psalm 45 fails to grapple with the original context of the Psalm, preferring instead to defer to post-Biblical Jewish and Christian apologetics concerning one of the most controversial verses in the Bible. The truth rather seems to be that in pre-exilic Judaism, the Yahwism of the Israelites/Judeans embraced an understanding of the relationship between the King and YHWH which had either been forgotten...or entirely expunged by post-exilic Judaism. Much research has been done regarding the "enthronement psalms," which this psalm is somewhat related to. In short, the ancient Israelite religion evolved to see the king as Yahweh's adopted son from the day of his coronation, as clearly stated in Psalm 2. It is also believed that each year, likely on the New Year festival, both Yahweh's and the Israelite king's enthronements were simultaneously celebrated on Mount Zion. The Israelite cosmology concerning the king's relationship to the national Deity was not altogether different from its Near Eastern next of kin. In light of the above, as shocking as it sounds that Psalm 45 is referring to the fleshly Israelite king as "God," it cannot be entirely dismissed just because it is counter-intuitive to post-exilic Jewish and Christian notions and sensitivities. In a sense, the Israelite king was God's anointed ("messiah") representative on earth, and the writer of Psalm 45 may have taken it just a little too far in his overflowing enthusiasm, which he himself admits to in the first verse of the psalm.

Re: How many years are there between Genesis 12 (Abram) and Deuteronomy 32 (Moses’ death)?

Seriosdude — Wed, 05 Oct 2022 20:39:54 -0000

Does it really matter - 430 years, 400 years or even 480 years? if you "believe" that God wrote the Bible through His scribes and prophets, then why argue over a few years, points of difference? Famine, army? Who cares!!

What Matters - is that Jesus came, He was crucified, he rose again on the third day - AND He is coming back!!

If you don't believe that Jesus IS the Promised Messiah - then you CANNOT argue over anything else!

Abraham took his families and possessions - having faith in God's Promise.

I think we all should look to that Promise - rather than argue over a few discrepancies in time, detail or script - THAT DO NOT MATTER!!

Re: When did Christ rise? (Mark 16:9)

A Coventry Scone — Wed, 05 Oct 2022 04:24:35 -0000

most undead freemason and unforgivable blasphemer, The Holy Day Is Sunday, Christ Was Crucified On Friday.

Re: is Michael Heiser’s “Divine Council Worldview”, presented in his book ‘The Unseen Realm’ and Naked Bible podcast, biblical?

Stand for truth — Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:59:26 -0000

I would think the moment he speaks of a pantheon of true gods created before any created things should concern a believer that he is starting with a whole different story then the Bible. It goes to worse from there...
God himself says in so many ways there was no God formed before nor after

Re: Please tell me where the Bible says angels cannot lie

Lisa — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 16:45:44 -0000

Good question been wondering about it myself yet no answers!

Re: What king wanted to kill Elisha?

tem wakefield — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 02:21:32 -0000

Also the famine was caused by the army, not because of the weather. Elijah caused a 7 year famine, not elisha.